I’ve been approached by men who say I’m wearing too much makeup and that men don’t like that. That I should smile more if I want a boyfriend. That my clothes aren’t very flattering and it’s unattractive to him.
Like, for all your talk of “go outside” you don’t seem to know what life is like for women outside.
Not excusing ignorance but it is wild how different the experience of the average man or woman can be just existing in public. It makes sense to me that a man who is largely a basement dweller would have no first hand exposure to that sort of behavior.
Hearing a girlfriend express a lack of confidence because she wouldn’t get accosted kind of fucked me up. A moment of realization that the way the world is is so drastically different from the way I want to believe it is, I didn’t know where to start.
I try to build a habit of reacting to feeling upset with behavior by thinking up a situation that could lead me to act in the same way, but I really struggle to imagine what would make someone inclined to approach a stranger on the street with this kind of comment.
Totally unrelated, but I’ve seen comics from this artist before and they’ve always given me weirdly unsettling vibes. I can’t really pinpoint if it’s the dialogue or the art style.
Mine? America. I even live in a very blue “progressive” area. But I have friends in the UK that have similar experinces. Frankly, why would that even matter? This sort of thing happens all over.
I mean. Okay? Maybe? But that’s not really the point?
I’m just trying to address how unrealistic you thought this comic was. But it is a accurate depiction of a regular experince for many women’s lives.
Honestly it seems like you’re just trying to “win” the discussion by correcting others. When women talk about the problems they face, it’s not helpful for you to go “That doesn’t happen”.
When women talk about the problems they face, it’s not helpful for you to go “That doesn’t happen”.
Your bias is showing, that’s not a helpful response when anyone talks about their problems. Not just women.
Talking more seriously (but not that much more), I have some appreciation for being this brazen in the whole “I live in the real world and know women aren’t shown disrespect out of nowhere by men they don’t know, unlike you women with your lived experiences” shtick.
Your bias is showing, that’s not a helpful response when anyone talks about their problems. Not just women.
All lives matter moment.
This conversation is literally about women and their experience. If we were talking about someone being deported to a foreign prison and how they deserve due process, someone coming in with “everyone deserves due process” is not helpful nor offering any useful insight.
“These are good potatoes” does not mean I hate everything else on my plate.
I was making fun of the guy who was arguing with her. That’s why at the start of the very next sentence I said I was not being serious in the part you quoted, and then right after saying that I called out that exact behavior.
I get that sarcasm isn’t always easy to detect online so I wrote a second short paragraph to explicitly clarify that the first was sarcasm. Sorry for being annoyed but I feel kind of frustrated that still wasn’t clear enough to avoid getting condescended to.
If you were even vaguely representative of Scandinavians, I’d steer clear. Luckily, I have family in Norway and Finland, so I know you’re just an ass and are full of shit.
I am not a women but if you go outside with them you will see it.
Any time a woman stands up for anything that a shitty man disagrees with they say the same shit. Every time.
Really? So people randomly approach you on the street and proclaim they’ll never date you?
YES. Literally yes.
I’ve been approached by men who say I’m wearing too much makeup and that men don’t like that. That I should smile more if I want a boyfriend. That my clothes aren’t very flattering and it’s unattractive to him.
Like, for all your talk of “go outside” you don’t seem to know what life is like for women outside.
Not excusing ignorance but it is wild how different the experience of the average man or woman can be just existing in public. It makes sense to me that a man who is largely a basement dweller would have no first hand exposure to that sort of behavior.
You’re speaking for yourself, I presume?
sick comeback bro that must go over really well in your middle school
Hearing a girlfriend express a lack of confidence because she wouldn’t get accosted kind of fucked me up. A moment of realization that the way the world is is so drastically different from the way I want to believe it is, I didn’t know where to start.
I try to build a habit of reacting to feeling upset with behavior by thinking up a situation that could lead me to act in the same way, but I really struggle to imagine what would make someone inclined to approach a stranger on the street with this kind of comment.
Totally unrelated, but I’ve seen comics from this artist before and they’ve always given me weirdly unsettling vibes. I can’t really pinpoint if it’s the dialogue or the art style.
What country?
Mine? America. I even live in a very blue “progressive” area. But I have friends in the UK that have similar experinces. Frankly, why would that even matter? This sort of thing happens all over.
Same in Italy x 100.
America. Typical. I would like you to come to Scandinavia, then. You might get a culture shock.
I live in Norway. While it is less prevalent here than elsewhere, please understand that it still very much exists.
Guess what country the comic artist is likely from…
I mean. Okay? Maybe? But that’s not really the point?
I’m just trying to address how unrealistic you thought this comic was. But it is a accurate depiction of a regular experince for many women’s lives.
Honestly it seems like you’re just trying to “win” the discussion by correcting others. When women talk about the problems they face, it’s not helpful for you to go “That doesn’t happen”.
Your bias is showing, that’s not a helpful response when anyone talks about their problems. Not just women.
Talking more seriously (but not that much more), I have some appreciation for being this brazen in the whole “I live in the real world and know women aren’t shown disrespect out of nowhere by men they don’t know, unlike you women with your lived experiences” shtick.
All lives matter moment.
This conversation is literally about women and their experience. If we were talking about someone being deported to a foreign prison and how they deserve due process, someone coming in with “everyone deserves due process” is not helpful nor offering any useful insight.
“These are good potatoes” does not mean I hate everything else on my plate.
I was making fun of the guy who was arguing with her. That’s why at the start of the very next sentence I said I was not being serious in the part you quoted, and then right after saying that I called out that exact behavior.
I get that sarcasm isn’t always easy to detect online so I wrote a second short paragraph to explicitly clarify that the first was sarcasm. Sorry for being annoyed but I feel kind of frustrated that still wasn’t clear enough to avoid getting condescended to.
Well, it doesn’t happen.
If you were even vaguely representative of Scandinavians, I’d steer clear. Luckily, I have family in Norway and Finland, so I know you’re just an ass and are full of shit.
Is that like the American “2% of something” family in Scandinavia? Because that really means very little.
LOL I’m not an American. Your love of strawmen highlights your inability to actually respond to anything.
Well that makes it even worse, then. If you’re so ignorant of how reality and normal people behave I suggest not hanging out so much on social media.
I am not a women but if you go outside with them you will see it.
Any time a woman stands up for anything that a shitty man disagrees with they say the same shit. Every time.
Listen, just because nobody has ever seen you as attractive doesn’t mean that’s the experience most people have.
I think you got something a little backwards.
Just want to note this bloke took ten minutes to respond and this is the best they came up with.
Yes, because Lemmy is the most important thing in the world. I’ll reply in my own time. Not yours.
Boooooring.