• @archonet@lemy.lol
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    Conservatives: I like [insert obnoxious conservative figurehead] because they tell it like it is, they mean what they say

    Also conservatives, sometimes in the same breath: Fake! [obnoxious conservative figurehead] didn’t mean that! Taken out of context! 'Tis but a jape!

    Jesus fuck the reality distortion field is strong, it’s like doublethink but without being a clever social trick to survive, it’s just they’re that stupid.

      • @boomzilla@programming.dev
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        16 months ago

        Let me be a grammar Nazi. It’s “gewusst”. But spot on, yes.

        For non-german speakers: “I didn’t knew of this”. In a reference to Nazi germany when Hitler and the NSDAP publicised a lot of their plans inb4. Just like HF with P2025.

        • @crashoverride@lemmy.world
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          06 months ago

          Let me further be a grammar Nazi, technically there is no double s in German. It would be the eszett. It looks like a capital b with a little tail.

      • Phoenixz
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        06 months ago

        Oh this… So much of this.

        This is like the UK voting for brexit only to start searching “what will brexit do for me” the day AFTER the vote…

        It sucks sonbad that dictatorships don’t work, because democracy with stupid people doesn’t work either and most people are just. So. Stupid…

        • SwizzleStick
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          16 months ago

          For that vote, we actually had a whole-ass government produced booklet through the door.

          It supported Remain and explained all the shit that would happen if Leave went through.

          The plebs saw some lies about the NHS slapped on the side of a bus, suspended all intelligence, and voted Leave. In my eyes the majority was not strong enough to consider changing foundation policy, but here we are.

          All the turmoil promised came to fruition.

  • @Thorry84@feddit.nl
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    “He’s probably just joking” is something I heard so much over the past few years about things the right has been spewing. THEY ARE NOT JOKING, THEY ARE NEVER JOKING! I don’t know how this is a hard thing to understand.

    • @FireRetardant@lemmy.world
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      16 months ago

      Also, if they are lying about these things, why did they vote for a liar? A lot of people who called agenda 2025 fake or lies still voted for the party representing it.

    • @SGforce@lemmy.ca
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      16 months ago

      Also, why the fuck is it cool for a politician to joke about doing shit? Literally any joke is not cool.

    • Laurel Raven
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      15 months ago

      For people who apparently joke so much they sure as shit ain’t funny

    • @shalafi@lemmy.world
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      16 months ago

      Trump says ‘I don’t kid’ after aides argue he was joking about slowing coronavirus testing.

    • @SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      16 months ago

      Fuck, my neighbor says the same every time Trump says something awful. “Trump just talks a lot of shit, he’s just joking.”

      Fuck you neighbor, you approved leadership from the guy who encouraged putting kids in cages.

      • @pyre@lemmy.world
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        I’m sorry I thought we were having an election for president, not jester.

      • @FreakinSteve@lemmy.world
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        06 months ago

        Putting kids in cages to sell them.into child sex trafficking because trump and his cronies ARE THE PEDOPHILES THAT MAGA IS LOOKING FOR

  • Cyborganism
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    16 months ago

    They’ve lied so much and gaslit so much that people don’t know what to believe anymore.

    And with all the AI and Russian troll farm bullshit being posted on social media, it’s just poisoning the truth. It’s time to ditch Twitter, Facebook and company.

    I keep telling my folks that and that they’ll end up being influenced and manipulated but they refuse because of how convenient it is. And I almost have to keep it because that’s the only way they communicate right now.

  • @zib@lemmy.world
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    16 months ago

    I used to have a boss who like to joke about firing people on his team. He was a nice guy and there was no ill intention behind the jokes, but we eventually had to sit him down and tell him that he couldn’t joke about that stuff because it causes a great deal of stress to people given his position.

    Another example is bomb jokes in airports. Aside from just being in poor taste, that’s something that will get you arrested and probably put on a no-fly list for life because it’s an extremely serious matter with no exceptions.

    So, even if Trump and his people are just joking about these horrible things, it’s completely unacceptable when it’s entirely believable they would do this stuff and would be in a position to make it happen.

    TLDR: There are just some things you don’t fucking joke about.

    • db0
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      I joke about firing people sometimes, but I am not a manager and never want to be managing anyone. I only say it to people who know that I have no power over them which is the only time this joke is OK.

    • @someguy3@lemmy.world
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      16 months ago

      I remember a story of a young manager joking about firing people. The older manager pulled him to the side and told him you can’t do that because that can hit people.

    • @FreakinSteve@lemmy.world
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      16 months ago

      Sounds like you hate free speech! You would really imprison others for a difference of opinion??!

      —any random trumpfuck

  • @someguy3@lemmy.ca
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    06 months ago

    I listened to many interviews with people convinced that Trump wouldn’t do the things he said he would do. They definitely won’t acknowledge the things he said he won’t do.

    • @owenfromcanada@lemmy.world
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      06 months ago

      To be fair, I’m hoping Trump won’t do a lot of the things that he said he’d do. I have some hope of that–not because his intentions are good, but on the chance he gets distracted with something less harmful that strokes his ego.

      • @gdog05@lemmy.world
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        06 months ago

        Trump is not the one to worry about now. His entire cabinet and the cavities within every institution who wrote and sponsored and want project 2025 are the ones to worry about. They will be carrying out their edict that they’ve successfully worked on for at least a decade now if not more. They have everything they could ever want to do it. And Trump will do random crazy things because he can now and that’s who he is but he doesn’t care about 2025, he just cares about celebrity, money and power. And every crazy thing he makes headlines for will be when the power grabs really happen and when the damage is done.

        • @Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          06 months ago

          And then they’ll say something one day that rubs him the wrong way and he’ll fire them.

          All Trump wants is to get and maintain power. I believe he’d like to pass it on to Ivanka or Eric after that. And maybe eventually Baron.

          • @Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world
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            06 months ago

            No, he’ll be dead. His purpose is almost fulfilled, just one more thing to get people motivated to accept the new order and war.

            • @gdog05@lemmy.world
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              That’s what I think as well. If he remains a useful idiot he’s fine. The moment he tries to use power for only his purposes instead of whatever Russian/American theocratic reasons, he’s surrounded by people ready to 25th amendment him out of office with little push back.