• Rentlar
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    5 days ago

    From a layperson’s POV, this will seem to require years of untangling the law to properly give LGBTQ+ people their due rights under the law that is in theory afforded to everyone. This is a setback for immediate protections, but my view is that this isn’t necessarily bad in the long term, so long as corrective steps are taken to address the root issue.

    UK law has been written and interpreted over hundreds of years with various historical understandings of personhood throughout that time. At one point basically only men were people, so laws were only referring to them. After the affirmation of women’s rights and suffrage, should we have just said: women are “men” for every intent and purpose, and just not bothered to update the law and keep using “men” everywhere thereafter? It seems similar to me that tacking trans people’s rights on by making the definitions more ambiguous is fine early on, but at some point should be codified better in law, to give equal right to trans men, trans women and non-binary folks as to cisgender folks. Ignoring the difference of gender vs. sex under the law entirely, would leave gaps in serving trans and nonbinary people’s unmet needs as well. None of this will happen on its own, so allies of LGBTQ+ people ought to contact their MP to make it happen.

    I’m not oblivious to the harm to both women and transgender people that this ruling will bring upon the UK, but it should spur on actually solving the issues on codifying gender and sex under the law, rather than relying on half-solutions or temporary solutions.

    I’d happily be educated on this topic.

    • Ada
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      34 days ago

      This is a setback for immediate protections, but my view is that this isn’t necessarily bad in the long term, so long as corrective steps are taken to address the root issue.

      There will be no corrective steps.

      it should spur on actually solving the issues

      It won’t, because it was brought about to achieve the exact opposite

      • Rentlar
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        14 days ago

        There will be no corrective steps.

        Okay, noted, thanks. There will never be any corrective steps as long we avoid thinking of any.

        • Ada
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          24 days ago

          There will not be any corrective steps anytime soon, because the UK government, who would need to implement those steps, is actively disinclined to make them, because even though it’s less transphobic than the previous government, it is still doing transphobia for political reasons.

    • Snot Flickerman
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      45 days ago

      This is a setback for immediate protections, but my view is that this isn’t necessarily bad in the long term, so long as corrective steps are taken to address the root issue.

      UK is notoriously anti-trans so the main issue is hoping for it to get better is just a wee bit of a pipe dream.